Setting up informal interviews

Shortly after I graduated and my internship had ended, I was without a job. This, as I am sure all who have been without a job will know, is particularly stressful. It is also something that most recent graduates will have to face—because really, will you have your dream job lined up after graduation?

One piece of advice that one of the senior level people at my internship gave me proved to be an excellent way of bringing structure into your job search and relieving some of the stress. This is what he told me:

People love to talk about themselves, so make a list of ten to fifteen people in the area in which you are interested that you want to see for a chat. Tell them you would love to hear from them how they managed their career; tell them you are new and would love to discuss the different career paths you are thinking about. This is much more effective than telling them you are looking for a job and you would like to discuss the possibilities in his or her organization, but basically, you are asking the same thing.

Making that list however, is the easy part; in my case the people at my internship gave me several high profile names to contact, including a vice president for a big-time public relations agency and a chief communications officer for a large non-profit. The trick is lining up these interviews. Many people simply won’t have time or are not interested and you will find your list quickly exhausted. That’s why you have to keep the list of possible interviews at ten to fifteen people at all time; whenever you are denied (and you’d better get used to that), add another person to the list. And please, do ask the denier if they might know other people who would be interested in talking to you; they can always point you in the right direction.

By adding to the list, the list is basically a never-ending source for informal interview possibilities. It is a lot of work, but it is a very structured way: you can make a list of people who you should contact; a list of people who you should follow up with; a list of people who have declined, but pointed you to other people. Keep tabs!

And of course, cold calling all these people is pretty scary. Why not make a little script? For example: “Hi, my name is John Smith. Mr. So and So (always drop the name of their acquaintance) suggested I should give you a call. I was wondering if you would have some free time for me to stop by and talk to you about your career in (in this case) public relations. I am just starting out in the industry and I would love to gain some insight and some advice on how to approach my starting career, and I thought you would add an interesting perspective.”

Once you land the informal interview, treat it as a real interview. The people you are going to see know just as well as you do that you are looking for a job. Prepare, dress up, have resumes handy. Have questions ready and be prepared to answer questions. You will be amazed at the opportunities that spring from these supposedly informal chats. And don’t forget to ask if he or she can suggest other people you can talk to!

Marc van Bree is a native Dutch public relations practitioner living in Chicago. He works for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and is the author of Dutch Perspective (http://blog.mcmvanbree.com) – a personal blog on cultural affairs, international affairs and public relations.

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5 Comments

  1. […] Yesterday, I was a guest contributor at Forward Moving. I wrote about informal interviewing, a key instrument in the job search. Check it out on Forward. […]

    Pingback by Dutch Perspective » Blog Archive » Guest contribution to Forward — September 22, 2006 @ 11:06 am

  2. Yur suggestion sounds great, but how do you get all the names in your list if you do not have any contact in the public relations industry ? I do not have contacts from college (I do not have a degree in communication) nor I did an internship. I am already working in PR but I would like to change company and do not know how to start to build the list. Please advise

    Comment by Enrica — October 3, 2006 @ 11:48 am

  3. […] Ok - so to wrap up this point - think of how knowledgeable and current you can be in an interview situation (formal or informal) having sharpened your saw in this way, knowing not just what everyone else knows but what the experts think. Very powerful stuff. Running List: […]

    Pingback by JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » The Professional’s Job Search Creed - 5 of 10 — November 27, 2006 @ 2:56 pm

  4. As a HR Manager in the field of Public Relations, I strongly encourage new grads to get in touch with the HR dept. to schedule an informational interview. If you leave a good impression in the informational interview, most likely you will get a call back as soon as a new position opens - even before it’s posted on a job board.

    Remember, we scan through hundreds of resumes a week, so a face to face leaves that extra impression. It also makes us look good when a position opens up and we can tell the hiring managers we already have a candidate we think would fit the bill.

    Comment by Valerie — February 3, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

  5. […] I talked about the great internship experience at the Chicago Lighthouse, where I was not just the guy that gets everyone coffee but got assigned actual work. I went on to talk about how I searched for jobs and how much volunteering helped me extend my network. And I touched my brief stint at Carol Fox & Associates before I moved on to the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, explaining my day-to-day tasks and some of the most memorable projects. […]

    Pingback by Dutch Perspective - by Marc van Bree » Blog Archive » A debut of some sort — March 2, 2007 @ 11:18 am

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